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lostinapapercupIf anyone's out there today and feels like having a meme:
1. Comment on this post.
2. I will give you a letter.
3. Think of 5 fictional characters and either reply here with their names and your comments on the characters or post them to your own journal.
1. Comment on this post.
2. I will give you a letter.
3. Think of 5 fictional characters and either reply here with their names and your comments on the characters or post them to your own journal.
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Date: 2011-12-05 08:42 pm (UTC)Although, clarification: are we making up these characters or are they pre-existing?
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Date: 2011-12-05 08:49 pm (UTC)How about C?
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Date: 2011-12-05 09:18 pm (UTC)Then we've got Cassie Sandsmark, the feisty blonde leader of Young Justice. I dig her costume with its jeans and tanktop and boots, and the fact that she manages such a boys club and is a total tomboy. I don't know much of her story past Young Justice, but she kicks ass in that series and has the strongest character arc. Yeah, she's a smartass, but you know I love that.
How about Lost's resident drug-addict-turned...well, ex-drug-addict, Charlie Pace? I always kind of enjoyed him, when he wasn't being a horrible human being. But maybe I just have a soft spot for guitar players. Or perhaps I just find Dominic Monaghan super charming (I do). Either way, Greatest Hits is still one of my favorite episodes.
Charlie Number Two is Charlie Dalton, the philosophizing, pontificating, saxophone-playing warpaint-using Nuwanda of Dead Poet's Society. Charlie's the bad boy who refuses to take anything seriously, always has a snappy comeback, and he's easily my favorite character in the movie.
Fifth, because who could forget him at this time of year Charlie Brown. Yeah, that's three Charlies in a row, but they're all so vastly different! And I have a soft spot for poor mopey Charlie Brown, who is, out of all the Charlie Brown's in the world, the Charlie Browniest. My favorite Charlie Brown moment is when his team gets together to make him a uniform, even though he is the world's worst team manager. The wobbly smile on his face always gets me.
There you go!
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Date: 2011-12-05 09:39 pm (UTC)I only ever read a few of the Narnia books while I was a kid but I remember Caspian being one of my favorite characters, and I always kind of enjoyed him, when he wasn't being a horrible human being --> haha, this sentence made me laugh knowingly.
And you know what? I think the uniform has always been my favorite Charlie Brown moment too.
I like your choices!
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Date: 2011-12-05 09:44 pm (UTC)(Here's another C: Cinderella's Prince.)
Hah! Did you also feel that way about dearly departed Mr. Pace?
That was fun! Thanks!
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Date: 2011-12-05 09:51 pm (UTC)You know, I my feelings about Charlie were in limbo for a long time. I mean, I liked his sense of humor, but I felt like I was so often thinking Charlie no, no Charlie over stuff he did that I couldn't quite like him. I didn't like him as much as I know a lot of other people did and I didn't miss him terribly once he was killed off, but I really loved his relationships with Hurley, Claire, and Desmond.
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Date: 2011-12-05 10:06 pm (UTC)Laura Roslin, aka Madam Airlock. Through thick and thin she's so driven (if a little waylaid by chamalla and prophecy), but I've rarely seen such a kickass character in an older woman. She's smart, determined, not above cheating to get what she wants, and more than anything has this abiding belief in herself and a few key people even when it might not be warranted. There's a steely sort of beauty to Laura and even when she should be resigned, she rarely lets that get in her way and take over.
Since we're in Battlestar land, Leoben Conoy. What is the first article of faith? That this is not all there is. Man, what a conflicted and conflicting character. I go back and forth between believing that he believes in everything he says absolutely and being convinced that he's just an evil manipulative opportunistic S.O.B. He's probably both, but I love it when he gets all righteous and insistent just as much as I detest it when he gets downright cruel. Ultimately he's just a scared little kid who doesn't know which side he's really on any more than I do and that's every bit as redemptive for him as anything.
And continuing with the theme, Lee Adama. I have such mixed feelings about Lee. He's smart and he's stupid beyond belief, he's talented and he's aggressive, he doesn't know what he wants any more than Leoben. In a way, he's actually Leoben's human counterpart: he knows what he thinks is right and so often acts in the opposite way. I know we've talked a lot about Lee and the way he's written and I do agree that so often, I believe the writers didn't really know just what to do with him. But I love the end of his story arc, up to and including his fascination with mountains, and in a way I think he might be the most flawed of all the BSG characters. I could go on and on. I hate the way he treats women, though, and for that he won't ever be a personal favorite character of mine. But he's a good character nonetheless.
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it's deviation time! Ladd Russo is next on the list and in no way shape or form is fourth out of his own personal choice. People would know better. Ladd is completely and beautifully sociopathic and psychotic and has no personal limits. He would do anything just to do it, has zero scruples about life and living, except when it comes to himself. He wants to survive, and it's that and his affection for Lua (weird and fucked-up though it is) that make him such an attractive character and one that's so much guilty fun to watch.
And finally, because she popped to mind, Lacy Rand. Lacy starts out as a scared little schoolgirl who only has this circumstantial knowledge of what's going on around her, but she turns into... the Holy Mother? All on her own? Well, not all on her own, she has a little help from the U-87s, but man, what a transformation. I'm not sure I understand her motivations and I know her story arc is incredibly unfinished, so I can only surmise what happened during those times we don't get to see. I think out of all the Caprica characters she might be the most unfinished, and the bulk of her backstory is only in comments or in deleted scenes or in interviews about the undone Season 2. I kind of wish we'd gotten to see more of her, if only to make her more realistic and understandable. But I have to admit, she does look good as an action hero in black leather.
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Date: 2011-12-06 02:46 am (UTC)I assigned you the letter and then had to stop and think about who I'd have picked because my mind suddenly went blank of all L names. But when they started seeping back in Laura and Leoben were at the top of the list. You've known from the beginning how much I love Laura as a character, and I honestly think Leoben is fascinating. I think he's both absolutely certain of his beliefs and incredibly manipulative. My question right up until seeing the Flesh and Bone arc from his point of view in The Plan was is he just obsessed with her or does he actually have some kind of tap into something else. And the flashes of the future he got when he backed her up against the wall proved he does have something else going on. It doesn't change the fact that he's obsessed with her, though, or that he goes to extreme measures and is excellent at manipulation. It just... I don't know, gives a slightly different accent to his character.
And then you said Lee! Man, I sure have thought a lot about Lee lately, and I agree with so much of what you say about him here. Maybe if I hadn't read that podcast transcript -- I think it was a podcast transcript -- where RDM said something to the effect of how they'd fumbled some with Lee I'd be willing to give his writing more credit for some of his flaws, but I can't now. Even though he was obviously flawed and had a chip on his shoulder, I initially liked him. I didn't love him, but I liked him. I enjoyed his conflict initially. I enjoyed his UST with Starbuck initially too, although my interest in them as a duo has always been more pinned to their ability to be USTful friends, brothers-in-arms (so to speak), and nearly family rather than romantically complicated to the point of hurting other people and beating each other up. You're right that his notable bad treatment of Starbuck in LDYB and Dee throughout season three really keep me from liking him more.
I don't know. I think it's funny to read people saying there's not enough Lee love or that he's a fantastic character, I admit, because I think most people I see online like him and while I think he's a good character -- this coming from someone who kind of loves all BSG characters, though -- I certainly don't think he's a great character. I think some serious missteps were made with him, and barring that absolutely beautiful speech of his at Baltar's trial, most of my favorite Lee scenes are of him with Bill or Laura. I like him most in seasons one and four, and I'm an unapologetic fan of his season four arc, barring a few minor problems I have (like naming him President; there just seemed something uncomfortably undemocratic about it) and one major problem (his hasty insistence that they needed to fly the fleet into the sun).
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Date: 2011-12-06 03:05 am (UTC)Now I'm going to post this meme in my journal. Maybe I'll be able to give you a letter!
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Date: 2011-12-06 03:11 pm (UTC)M is great
Date: 2011-12-06 11:34 pm (UTC)2. Mephisto, the Lord of Hatred in Diablo II. This was my very first pc game and i still know, how hard it was to defeat him. I got wet hands and my puls goes over 100. Finally, I was so proud of myself, because I get faster to act IV as my "mentor"
3. MacGyver: was the hero of my early teenage-years. He was so smart and sexy (spooky, i know, but, like i've said - i was very young). I remember especialy one episode where he has reconstruct the face of a dead woman (without computer). Long before the CSI do :)
4. Manfred "Manny", the mammouth, he is so sarcastic, but otherwise loyal and protective. And, I love Ray Romano , he did a very good job.
5. Last but not least Antonio Raimundo "Tony" Montana, because Scarfce is just an incredible film and Pacino is one of my favorits. All boys in our school were totaly crazy about how to be like Scarface. Some of them never come back from this trip and clothe themselves still as in this film.
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Date: 2011-12-07 12:15 am (UTC)And I know exactly what you mean about Mephisto! I always had the hardest time with Duriel at the end of act two -- he was so fast! -- but Mephisto was creepier, in my opinion. My favorite characters to play were the amazon (with bow) and the sorceress, so I could usually keep the casualties down as long as I shot at him from across that little river of blood around his platform.
Some of my first crushes were on animated men, so I won't blame you for crushing on MacGyver at a young age. Or now, really. Smart is sexy!